--On Thursday, January 14, 2010 20:44 +0200 Patrik Fältström <paf@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > FWIW: Not only China has that requirement. Actually, while some are more careful about enforcing it than others, _most_ countries have that requirement, even when they don't require visas prior to arrival. While there are exceptions, a passport that has less than six months before its expiration date is primarily useful for going back to one's home country (or treaty area), not for outbound travel. john > On 14 jan 2010, at 20.01, Behcet Sarikaya wrote: > >> Just wish to remind people that China requires passports to >> have at least 6 months before expiration during your visit. >> >> This might mean renewing your passport before getting visas. >> >> Regards, >> >> Behcet >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >>> From: Andrew G. Malis <agmalis@xxxxxxxxx> >>> To: Fred Baker <fred@xxxxxxxxx> >>> Cc: Ole Jacobsen <ole@xxxxxxxxx>; IETF-Discussion list >>> <ietf@xxxxxxxx> Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 8:11:15 AM >>> Subject: Re: Visas to China >>> >>> If you are a US resident, also note that China has multiple >>> consulates, and the consulate that you will use for your >>> visa depends on where you live. See this map for details: >>> >>> http://www.china-embassy.org/eng/hzqz/t84229.htm >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Andy >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Fred Baker wrote: >>>> I'll echo Ole and Brian. In general, I find the Chinese >>>> consulate/embassy not very demanding. If you have a >>>> business reason for a multi-entry visa, get one, but in >>>> general the standard tourist visa is simplest to get and >>>> works fine. >>>> >>>> Not advertising the service, but to give you an idea of >>>> what it looks like, I'll point you at the web site of the >>>> company Cisco uses for visas. >>>> http://www.peninsulavisa.com/russia-.htm >>>> To get a visa to China, you need a visa application >>>> (download from the web site) and a color "passport" photo. >>>> If you go for a "business" visa, you need some >>>> demonstration of the business. "business" implies you're >>>> trying to sell something or staying there for an extended >>>> duration; to attend a conference such as an IETF meeting >>>> one generally gets a tourist visa. Some countries need >>>> letters of invitation; I would expect the host will have a >>>> facility up to get such. >>>> >>>> The visa process at the Chinese Embassy is usually on the >>>> order of a week; safety would suggest two. My multiple >>>> entry visa will expire just before the meeting, so I plan >>>> to file for a new visa sometime in October. >>>> >>>> Interesting reading from the Los Angeles PRC Consulate. >>>> overview: >>>> http://losangeles.china-consulate.org/eng/visa/chinavisa/t2 >>>> 7606.htm tourist: >>>> http://losangeles.china-consulate.org/eng/visa/chinavisa/t >>>> 27605.htm business: >>>> http://losangeles.china-consulate.org/eng/visa/chinavisa/t2 >>>> 7604.htm >>>> >>>> Non-US folks should of course look at the web site of >>>> whatever consulate is relevant to them for specifics of the >>>> relations between China and their country. >>>> >>>> On Jan 12, 2010, at 7:26 AM, Ole Jacobsen wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Since Andy mentioned visas I would like to give some vague >>>>> and unhelpful advice :-) >>>>> >>>>> It turns out that the DURATION of your visa depends on >>>>> what country you are from, and even what consulate or >>>>> embassy you apply at. In all cases the clock starts >>>>> running the day the visa is issued. >>>>> >>>>> Real example: As a Norwegian, applying in San Francisco, I >>>>> was only grqnted a single-entry visa valid for 3 months. I >>>>> applied in March 2009 which was a mistake since the trip >>>>> didn't happen until August, so I would have had a visa >>>>> that expired sometime in June. They all say "must not >>>>> arrive after ". I was able execute an "undo" on this >>>>> particular occasion and came back again in July and >>>>> received a visa that covered the period of my visit. >>>>> >>>>> Your mileage may, no, WILL, vary, so check the wiza >>>>> wizards, consulates, embassies etc. Fred Baker regularly >>>>> gets a one-year multi entry visa, but he's American and he >>>>> uses the visa brokers, something I clearly should have >>>>> done instead of foolishly applying too early. >>>>> >>>>> The form has a box which asks when you intend to arrive in >>>>> China, but that information is NOT used to start the clock >>>>> for the validity of the visa itself, in some sense that >>>>> date isn't used for anything, at least as far as I can >>>>> tell. >>>>> >>>>> How long you can stay in China again depends on what >>>>> country you are from and what kind of visa you have. >>>>> >>>>> Ole >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Ole J. 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