On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Andrew Sullivan <ajs@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 01:02:54PM -0500, Joe Abley wrote: >> >> If you're proposing that the IETF document a list of names that has >> change control and authorship homed within ICANN, then I'm not sure >> what the benefit of that is. > > Setting aside the mind-bending metaphysical consequences of the > subject line in this thread, I actually think it would be a good idea > if there were, somewhere, a list of undelegated top-level names for > which change control and (policy) authorship nevertheless lie within > ICANN. At the moment, the canonical list of the reserved names from > ICANN's point of view is buried inside a document that many people > have no reason to consult, because they're not trying to get a new top > level delegation. I believe that putting together a static list of something that is not clearly defined when there is no clear policy for adding/removing items from the list and no clear authority defined to execute the policy and responsible to keep the list updated will make the list useless on day D-1. Not only those "reserved names" are buried in an ICANN's *draft* document, as I mentioned on a previous message the current policy under discussion includes language to let registries of new gTLDs to create at its discretion additional reserved names within their gTLD, not specifying even at which level in the DNS tree the name might be. Also each registry agreement may include an specific appendix like in http://www.icann.org/en/tlds/agreements/verisign/appendix-06-01mar06.htm which states for each TLD/gTLD what names or particular constructs are reserved, such as one/two character or tagged domains with hyphens in the third and fourth char positions that I don't believe the proposed draft mentions. Perhaps instead of a static list a more complete fyi document could describe who has the "authority" to reserve names, how, and where the pertinent information can be obtained. I believe there is some work related to EPP about how registrars/registries exchange info about reserved names but I don't recall the specifics right now. My .02 Jorge _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf