I think there is general agreement that no "normal" IETF topic should have to be off limits for any IETF meeting in any location. We can argue about the finer details of what "normal" implies and we certainly need to establish that such speech would not get us in trouble. All that is happening thanks in part to the dicussion that has taken place on this list. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@xxxxxxxxx URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf