Why not provide a list of the potential problem topics to the Chinese government (maybe via MIIT or SAC) and say that the IETF does have open discussions in these areas, hence provided they accept this then IETF would be delighted to have the opportunity to meet in Beijing. If China is not willing to allow IETF to have the same level of open discussion that other countries would - then reconsider the venue. IMHO China is an excellent country to visit however IETF should select meeting locations that allow open discussion within the normal agenda/ topics Alan On 9/24/09 10:57 AM, "Olafur Gudmundsson" <ogud@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > At 23:45 23/09/2009, Cullen Jennings wrote: > >> IAOC, >> >> I'm trying to understand what is political speech in China. The >> Geopriv WG deals with protecting users' location privacy. The policies >> of more than one country have come up in geopriv meetings in very >> derogatory terms. There have been very derogatory comments made by >> people about the US's wiretap policy. Unless someone can point me at >> specifics of what is or is not OK, I would find this very concerning. > > > Anything we think is a speculation, the ways of governments and > hotels have their own logic that may not make sense to technical people. > > As for restrictions on topics that border technical and political sphere, > there are different restrictions in different countries. > > I propose an experiment, lets have a meeting if it gets shut down > we will never return to China. > > Olafur > _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf