Hi, I support this view. Furthermore I believe that even though people are allowed to have their opinions about a specific country politics or values the IETF is not the place to bring them forward regardless of the meeting location. The IETF is a technical body and not the UN. Roni Even > -----Original Message----- > From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > Steve Crocker > Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 10:56 PM > To: IETF Discussion; IAOC IAOC > Subject: Re: Request for community guidance on issue concerning a > future meeting of the IETF > > The choice is between engaging and not engaging. Engaging is better. > Not engaging isn't constructive. The Internet and the IETF are all > about engaging, expanding, communicating and being open. Much of this > dialog has been worried about possible extreme situations. Let's > focus on the center. More than a billion people live in China and > their use of the Internet is expanding rapidly. They are building > much of the technology and contributing technically. It's to > everyone's advantage to have comfortable, constructive interaction. > Our first slogan was "Networks Bring People Together." > > If you prefer to focus on the negatives, here's my analysis: > > If we don't go to China, we have charted a downhill course and the > rest of the world will come together without us. The IETF will lose > relevance. > > If we do go to China and something bad happens, the consequences will > be much worse for China than for the IETF. The work of the IETF will > suffer a bit, but we'll recover quickly enough. However, China's > quest for engagement with the rest of the world will be hurt more > seriously. > > Bottom line: We should go to China with a positive attitude. We're > robust enough to deal with any consequences. If we don't go to China, > however, we have weakened ourselves. > > Steve > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf