On 2009-09-10 03:53, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > From: Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@xxxxxxxxx> > > > The burden of proof rests on those ... who wish to change the > > independent stream from a respected independent publishing channel to > > something subservient to the Area Directors, a change which seems > > entirely gratuitous without any historically demonstrated need. > > A most concise and incisive summary of the situation. And hereby hangs a problem. The person who is charged with judging consensus on this conversation is an Area Director. I fear that he has a dilemma: if he reaches the conclusion that the consensus is to change the historical practice (that the IESG merely requests notes to be included in independent submissions), that conclusion would immediately be suspect, and I'd guess would be appealed in very short order. Brian _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf