Hi, Though, I think IETF has been always in the lavanguardia of fashion, I think Henk is absolutely right. Let people have their t-shirt if they want to. As long as there is no risk for the IETF. Who would that hurt? The money goes for a good cause - making the Internet work. Cheers, Jonne. -----Original Message----- From: ext Henk Uijterwaal Sent: 02/08/2009 12:53:02 Cc: ietf@xxxxxxxx Subject: Re: IETF74 T-Shirt Art Donated to IETF Trust Marshall Eubanks wrote: > If the IETF sold 100 shirts we would IMO be doing well. If we sold 1000, > we would be doing spectacularly well IMHO. > > That would net $ 5000. That's less than ten registrations at a meeting. > I am neutral about whether or not we do this, but please don't imagine > that it will supplant registration fees or otherwise lead to sudden riches. I'd be suprised if we sold more than a 100 shirts. I see this primarily as a service to attendees, not as a way to generate money. You get a shirt for free, if you want a 2nd one for whatever reason, you can buy it. The IETF gets a few $$ for the trouble. Henk -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Henk Uijterwaal Email: henk.uijterwaal(at)ripe.net RIPE Network Coordination Centre http://www.xs4all.nl/~henku P.O.Box 10096 Singel 258 Phone: +31.20.5354414 1001 EB Amsterdam 1016 AB Amsterdam Fax: +31.20.5354445 The Netherlands The Netherlands Mobile: +31.6.55861746 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Belgium: an unsolvable problem, discussed in endless meetings, with no hope for a solution, where everybody still lives happily. _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf