FWIW, while I think that I may be even more concerned than Scott is --partially as a matter of personality and partially because I've seen what I consider more symptoms-- we are in basic agreement about the problem and the concerns. This is really about Trust behavior vis-a-vis the community (or communities) it is expected to serve and from which it is expected to take direction and less about one particular document. Put differently, the document is flawed but the process that produced it and the way that process handles input are much more seriously problematic. john --On Monday, July 20, 2009 09:05 -0400 "Scott O. Bradner" <sob@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Some history that may explain some of my and some other > reaction to the recent postings by the Trust > > When the Trust was formed a number of us were quite worried > that it would begin to see itself as self directed and not as > a function whose purpose was to act at the direction of and in > support of the IETF. > > My own reaction to the recent postings from the Trust is that > the Trust is moving in the direction that some of us were > worried about -- the Trust posts a bunch of proposed changes > out of the blue. Out of the blue because I did not see any > posting that explained why they felt that they needed to make > changes or that these specific changes were in response to >... _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf