At 10:19 PM -0700 7/1/09, Douglas Otis wrote: > for wanting more than just plain text documents is to permit >inclusion of charts, graphs, and tables, for a visual society It seems to me that where this discussion has faltered before is on whether this is, in fact, a requirement. In the past, multiple people have argued that switching to a mode in which understanding the figures is necessary to understanding the protocol would be a step away from clarity, searchability, and inclusiveness. We have agreed to do it in some places in the past, but I believe there has been no previous rough consensus that it should be the default. If we are going to re-run this discussion, can we first check on the consensus on this requirement? If we don't agree here, the chance of this run concluding seems no better than any of the previous runs at the problem. The discussion just fragments into tool use, printer capabilities, and various distractions. regards, Ted Hardie _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf