I asked a colleague who is not involved in the IETF for a comment, to see how it passed test 1 below. His first reaction was positive. But then we noticed a problem. He's running Firefox with noscript. He gets a simplified version of the left hand bar - no subentries. And there is no indication to him he was missing links, and even when he, say, clicks on About the IETF, the page below doesn't have substitutes for the missing Mission, Standards Process and Note Well links (which I think it should - I haven't checked the other similar cases). He, and I, don't see any reason why this should be script generated - or if the alternative views is seen as so important (I'm not sure why) why the noscript version doesn't show all information. -- Christopher Dearlove Technology Leader, Communications Group Networks, Security and Information Systems Department BAE Systems Advanced Technology Centre West Hanningfield Road, Great Baddow, Chelmsford, CM2 8HN, UK Tel: +44 1245 242194 Fax: +44 1245 242124 BAE Systems (Operations) Limited Registered Office: Warwick House, PO Box 87, Farnborough Aerospace Centre, Farnborough, Hants, GU14 6YU, UK Registered in England & Wales No: 1996687 -----Original Message----- From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of IETF Chair Sent: 23 June 2009 21:25 To: IETF Announcement list Cc: iaoc@xxxxxxxx; ietf@xxxxxxxx; iesg@xxxxxxxx Subject: Update to the IETF Web Site *** WARNING *** This message has originated outside your organisation, either from an external partner or the Global Internet. Keep this in mind if you answer this message. For the last 10 months, the IETF Secretariat at the direction of the IAOC and input form the IESG and the IETF community has been working on an overhaul of the IETF web site. The goals for the new site were simple and included: 1) Make it easier for those who are new to the IETF to get involved; 2) Make it easier for experienced community members to access the tools and information they most need; and 3) Ensure that the web site is compliant with W3C standards and accessible to as many people as possible. The revised web site is currently located at www6.ietf.org. Please explore it. One of the first places you may want to start is at the very bottom of the left navigation bar, where you will see the "Customize View" link. The default view is "Normal" and if you click on one of the other views you will see slightly different views of the navigation bar and home page. As you move through the rest of the site, the navigation bar will be appear as you selected. On July 6th, the new web site will go live as www.ietf.org. The old site will then be accessible at www4.ietf.org, but the Secretariat will not be updating it any longer, so it will quickly become stale. At the end of August, the old web site will be takes offline. These two months will be used to ensure that all of the web content is available on the new web site and allow any tools that extract content to be updated. Any web site is a work in progress. The IAOC and the Secretariat are committed to continuing to improve the web site. So, please let us send email to the IETF Executive Director, Alexa Morris <amorris@xxxxxxxx>, with suggestions for further improvements. She is looking forward to receiving your suggestions and constructive criticism. Russ Housley IETF Chair _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf ******************************************************************** This email and any attachments are confidential to the intended recipient and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it from your system and notify the sender. You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose or distribute its contents to any other person. ******************************************************************** _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf