Dean, The web interface is broken. I don't have the initial password and it won't send me a new one. Please cease and desist this nonsense and unsubscribe me promptly, I never asked to be on your list, nor did anyone else that you added. You're a spammer, plain and simple. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@xxxxxxxxx URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Dean Anderson wrote: > The password was sent in the subscription mail. The mailing list > manager is GNU mailman, which is the same software many of the IETF > lists uses, including IETF@xxxxxxxxx List management is the same, and > the welcome message includes the password. In addition, mailman provides > a web interface, which can be found at: > > List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.iadl.org/mailman/options/ietf-honest>, > <mailto:ietf-honest-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe> > List-Archive: <http://lists.iadl.org/pipermail/ietf-honest> > List-Post: <mailto:ietf-honest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > List-Help: <mailto:ietf-honest-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=help> > List-Subscribe: <http://lists.iadl.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-honest>, > <mailto:ietf-honest-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=subscribe> > > RFC2369 headers are included in each list message. > > Logs show that Ole Jacobsen was added on February 28, 2009, after a post > to the IETF list. > > --Dean > > > > On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Ole Jacobsen wrote: > > > I think he added the ietf list as a whole. When I tried to > > unsubscribe it said I needed a password which it never sent, > > so I assume I am not "on" his list the strict sense. > > > > Ole > > > > Ole J. Jacobsen > > Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal > > Cisco Systems > > Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 > > E-mail: ole@xxxxxxxxx URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj > > > > > > On Mon, 23 Mar 2009, Fred Baker wrote: > > > > > well, question. Did he actually do that, or did he make a mailing list that > > > has one member - the IETF list - to which he can add other members as he > > > chooses? > > > > > > You may recall that at some point in the past we had the opposite. Someone set > > > up a mailing list that was subscribed to ietf@xxxxxxxx and filtered some of > > > our more interesting personalities. Folks that subscribed to it go a feed > > > without the comments of (or replies to) those individuals. Many moved their > > > subscriptions. > > > > > > Are you asking the Trust, or the IETF leadership, to send a cease and desist > > > letter? > > > > > > On Mar 23, 2009, at 2:35 PM, Melinda Shore wrote: > > > > > > >I was auto-subscribed to Dean's "ietf-honest" mailing > > > >list, and I'm unhappy about it. I don't know what his > > > >current status is with regard to the ietf@xxxxxxxx > > > >mailing list but I think he's pretty clearly abusing > > > >this mailing list by snagging names from it and > > > >putting us on his mailing list without asking. I'm also > > > >not thrilled that the "welcome" message he sends out > > > >fails to clearly identify who's sending it and that > > > >he does not represent the IETF. This is a small problem > > > >but a problem nonetheless. > > > > > > > >Melinda > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >Ietf mailing list > > > >Ietf@xxxxxxxx > > > >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Ietf mailing list > > > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Ietf mailing list > > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > > > > > > -- > Av8 Internet Prepared to pay a premium for better service? > www.av8.net faster, more reliable, better service > 617 344 9000 > > > _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf