As the draft was not approved by the IESG as a "Proposed Standard", the fact is that most people in the IETF community would not consider it as a proposed standard. It depends whether one interprets the term according to IETF procedures or according to everyday understanding of English. "The "Experimental" designation typically denotes a specification that is part of some research or development effort. Such a specification is published for the general information of the Internet technical community and as an archival record of the work, subject only to editorial considerations and to verification that there has been adequate coordination with the standards process." How high is the threshold, in practice, for getting something published as an experimental RFC? If one can easily get just about anything published that way on request, that means it requires very little approval. In that case I agree that it implies little also. But if it is necessary to convince someone that XYZ merits publication as an experimental RFC, that IS a kind of approval. I don't know which of these two is the case. _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf