On 2/10/09 4:48 PM, "Alex Loret de Mola" <edgarverona@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > What I don't want to see, however, is intelligent and reasonable > people turned away by the abruptness of the backlash here. I have no idea what you mean by "reasonable and intelligent." It seems to me that if they want to participate in the process, there's always a big need for people to review documents and provide input. If their only interest is in whether or not the IETF is publishing encumbered material, that's a lot less helpful. Not publishing hostile, false material on their website and encouraging people to comment on a document they haven't read would be a start, I think. > I've been trying to help this situation, for example, and I've > received a handful of rude comments and dismissals thrown my way just > in doing that. I don't think anyone deliberately intended to be rude > - they were understandably upset with the situation. What I'm saying > is that the FSF should consider the alternative methods of bringing up > their concerns that we sent to them, and we should consider a larger > measure of patience and tolerance when these things happen. I'm guessing you weren't around when the IPR working group was being chartered and later rechartered. Anyway, I'd love to see more active participation in protocol development by people who are actually implementing stuff. Melinda _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf