Noel wrote: > Rather than adopt indirect measures (such as requiring people to be > registered users of a list), I would go straight to the heart of the > matter, and adopt a formal policy that a mass email campaign should > count _against_ the position taken by that campaign, precisely to > dis-incentivize such campaigns. A formal policy would require some clear definition of what a "mass email campaign" is. How would/could we draw a line and define that term? Would 100 people sending more or less the same text to a list in less than 24 hours constitute a mass email campaign? I would say 'yes'. What about 50 people over 2 days? Maybe still 'yes'. How about 20 people over a week, or 10 people recited the same cut and pasted text during a longer last-call timeframe? I am not trying to pour cold water on your idea here, but rather I am wondering how something like this could be formalized, versus handled as an exceptional case when and if it occurs. Regards, Ed J. -----Original Message----- From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Noel Chiappa Sent: February 10, 2009 11:21 AM To: ietf@xxxxxxxx Cc: jnc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: how to contact the IETF > From: Andrew Sullivan <ajs@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > This means that those "driving by" have to be tolerated, I think. Ah, no. Because if organizing an email campaign works for the FSF, next thing you know, BigCorp X will be telling everyone who works for it 'we want standard Q approved, please send email to the IETF list about that'. If we allow ourselves to be influenced by a mass email campaign, all we are doing is virtually guaranteeing that we will get more. So I think we have an active interest is responding _negatively_ to such campaigns. Rather than adopt indirect measures (such as requiring people to be registered users of a list), I would go straight to the heart of the matter, and adopt a formal policy that a mass email campaign should count _against_ the position taken by that campaign, precisely to dis-incentivize such campaigns. Noel _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf