A couple of issues with the motivating text: > Derivative Works and Publication Limitations. If a Contributor > desires to limit the right to make modifications and derivative > works of an IETF Contribution, or to limit its publication, one of > the following notices must be included. For cases i) (publication as RFC only) and ii) (publication only as ID), the above is fine, because "the Contributor" refers to the author of the document. But for case iii), there are two "contributors" at issue. The one submitting the document, and possible pre-5378 contributors who's text has been included in the document. For case iii), it should remain clear that the document author/contributor is agreeing to the full 5378 coverage for his/her contribution (made subequent to 5378), but that they take no position regarding the pre-5378 text that may have been incorporated. Thus: > iii. If a Contribution includes Pre-5378 Material and the > Contributor does not wish to allow modifications of such Pre-5378 > Material to be made outside the IETF Standards Process: "does not wish" is not right. The issue is that the current author of the document is unable (for whatever reason) to make assertions about the pre-5378 material. The actual text that goes into the contribution under this condition seems OK, but the motivating text needs to be fixed to make the intent clear. I'd suggest: Old: > Derivative Works and Publication Limitations. If a Contributor > desires to limit the right to make modifications and derivative > works of an IETF Contribution, or to limit its publication, one of > the following notices must be included. New c. Derivative Works and Publication Limitations. If a Contributor desires to limit its publication, or the Contribution includes pre-5378 Material that limits the right to make modifications and derivative works of an IETF Contribution, one of the following notices must be included. The notices set forth in clauses (i) and (ii) below may not be used with any standards-track document, nor with most working group documents. and OLD: > iii. If a Contribution includes Pre-5378 Material and the > Contributor does not wish to allow modifications of such Pre-5378 > Material to be made outside the IETF Standards Process: NEW: iii. If a Contribution includes Pre-5378 Material and the Contributor is unable (for whatever reason) to obtain the necessary permissions to allow modifications of such Pre-5378 Material to be made outside the IETF Standards Process: Thomas _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf