On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 10:14:30AM -0600, Spencer Dawkins wrote: > > (3) I would strongly discourage spinning up a General-Area working group > without adopting the workaround - as an editor, even if I thought all > contributors had granted 5378-as-it-exists-today rights, I'm not sure why > I would make such a declaration. What if I was wrong? I know what *I* would do, if I were editing a I-D document in this post-5378 regime. I'd put the darned thing under source control, and in each changelog message I would include a reference to the message ID and author names for each textual contribution that I didn't personally author. That would hopefully control the legal liability I would suffer if someone tried to sue me claiming that I had somehow included text which violated copyright in some way, since I would be able to demonstrate provenance at least to who actual contributed the text to the wg mailing list. I still might end up having to sell my house to defend the lawsuit, but at least I would hopefully not lose my house as a result of making the promises required by RFC 5378 --- at least I would hopefully be able to take down whoever had misappropriated the text with me. :-) > In short - please do something quickly, because the current situation is > making things harder for people who want to get work done in the IETF, > and that should trump every other consideration, IMO. Indeed; I was only partially serious when I suggested that the IETF trust should indemnify or otherwise provide insurance to I-D authors. RFC-5378 is requiring them to take on potentially fearsome liability risks, even if we're not dealing with legacy RFC's from the pre-5378 era. - Ted _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf