Ed, Thanks for this. As I understand it, the proposal boils down to adding a disclaimer toaffected documents that reads: "This document contains material from IETF Documents or IETF Contributionspublished before November 10, 2008 and, to the Contributor’s knowledge,the person(s) controlling the copyright in such material have not grantedthe IETF Trust the right to allow modifications of such material outsidethe IETF Standards Process. Without obtaining an adequate license from theperson(s) controlling the copyright, this document may not be modified outsidethe IETF Standards Process, and derivative works of it may not be createdoutside the IETF Standards Process, except to format it for publication asan RFC and to translate it into languages other than English." That's a little bit long-winded but I agree that this is a correct fix.However, I didn't see in your note an explanation of the procedurefor approving the use of this boilerplate (and preventing it beingused simply as an easy way out). Rather than ranting about that, Iwill shortly submit an I-D that makes a concrete and, I hope, simpleproposal for that as a fix to RFC5378. I see no reason that we needto revisit RFC5378 in a fundamental way. Regards Brian _______________________________________________Ietf mailing listIetf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf