Re: IPR Questions Raised by Sam Hartman at the IETF 73 Plenary

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>>>>> "John" == John C Klensin <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> writes:

    >> We have a reality that the new IPR rules are fundamentally
    >> problematic.  Prior to their imposition, we had a functioning
    >> system.  Now we don't.
    >> 
    >> And the only thing that changed was imposition of the new
    >> rules.  Nothing else happened.
    >> 
    >> The proposals are mostly about adding another layer of 'fix' to
    >> what was supposed, itself, to be an incremental fix.  The odds
    >> that we will get that additional layer wrong are demonstrably
    >> high.

    John> And that is precisely why my I-D turns things into a choice
    John> between new rules and old rules, based only on the
    John> conclusion of the submitter about what is important... and
    John> why it does not attempt to "fix" 5378.  I agree with you
    John> about the odds of getting an additional layer right,
    John> especially so if we try to do it quickly.

For what it is worth, I as an individual support the new rules, and believe Russ gave me a fine answer.
I would not support turning this into a choice.
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