>>>>> "John" == John C Klensin <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> writes: >> We have a reality that the new IPR rules are fundamentally >> problematic. Prior to their imposition, we had a functioning >> system. Now we don't. >> >> And the only thing that changed was imposition of the new >> rules. Nothing else happened. >> >> The proposals are mostly about adding another layer of 'fix' to >> what was supposed, itself, to be an incremental fix. The odds >> that we will get that additional layer wrong are demonstrably >> high. John> And that is precisely why my I-D turns things into a choice John> between new rules and old rules, based only on the John> conclusion of the submitter about what is important... and John> why it does not attempt to "fix" 5378. I agree with you John> about the odds of getting an additional layer right, John> especially so if we try to do it quickly. For what it is worth, I as an individual support the new rules, and believe Russ gave me a fine answer. I would not support turning this into a choice. _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf