Re: Proposed DNSSEC Plenary Experiment for IETF 74

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In message <alpine.LFD.1.10.0811281438590.7186@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Paul Wout
ers writes:
> On Fri, 28 Nov 2008, Andrew Sullivan wrote:
> 
> > That said, I don't want to make light of the end-point problem, since
> > TSIG between a stub and a recursor isn't a trivial problem today
> > either.  Moreover, since end nodes in many environments get their
> > recursor's address(es) via DHCP, and since that path is pretty easy to
> > compromise, the whole edifice rests on a sandy foundation.
> > Nevertheless, I just want to be clear that having every end node in
> > the world doing RFC 4035-and-friends validation is not the only path
> > to useful DNSSEC.
> 
> It's worse. Before you can start validating on your own, or use some
> trusted remote TSIG accessable resolver, you are likely to need
> to accept some spoofs to get past the hotspot authentication.

	Which is something the IETF should be providing / promoting
	a standard alternative for.  At present normal protocol
	operations are being hijacked to do this.

	Browsers could then have a "HOTSPOT" button which just looked
	up this information, for example.

	Mark

> Then you need prevent your browser from caching them too much (they
> do fastflux protection), and your own potential resolver needs to
> dump the answers once it has a real IP link to the real world.
> 
> I don't know of any method to both allow hotspot access and fully
> use DNSSEC.
> 
> Paul
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