Here is a link to an English-language travel planner that you can use to check train times, prices and duration: http://www.hyperdia.com/cgi-english/hyperWeb.cgi? Enter, for example, Tokyo as the starting point and Hiroshima as the destination, in the next step set your departure time, type of fair (the name for First Class is "Green seat"). I came down from Tokyo to Hiroshima yesterday on the first Nozomi (fastest express) of the day. It left Tokyo at 06:00 and arrived here at 09:47, which isn't bad for 894.2km. We will be working with the Japan Travel Bureau (JTB) to allow you to book a hotel room in Tokyo (even at Narita itself) if you need to on your way in or out of the country. The main obstacle is that the Shinkansen stops running at midnight at the DESTINATION so to get to Hiroshima from Tokyo, say, you'd have to leave Tokyo before 8pm. That should be doable for most flights into Narita, but as Joel says, flying into Kansai is much better, assuming the sagging economy does not do away with flights to Kansai as well. There will be much more info about this on a website that I am working on and also on the local IETF 76 website which is also under construction. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@xxxxxxxxx URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj On Fri, 28 Nov 2008, Joel Jaeggli wrote: > John C Klensin wrote: > > Hiroshima is going to be at least as "interesting": while the > > flights from Narita to the US seem to leave late afternoon, one > > has to transit from Hiroshima to Narita, either by air (the only > > departure I can find is at 0755) or train, again, killing most > > of the day. Flights from Narita to Amsterdam, Frankfurt, and > > London (my small, not-random, sample) leave mid-day, with the > > same connection issues, i.e., "meet Friday" means "depart > > Saturday and arrive Saturday afternoon at best". > > While I won't observe to much about the schedule in relation to this I > will say: > > As a purely practical matter the Hikari Shinkansen on the Sanyo line > goes from Hiroshima to Osaka in about 90 minutes if I recall, Tokyo if > you want to go that far, is around 2.5 hours from Osaka with NRT being > about 40 minutes from Tokyo stations... however getting to Tokyo is not > the fastest way to leave or enter to country headed to hiroshima. > > The Kansai airport KIX is directly accessible from the US as well as > well as many well connected and some not so well connected European > cities and it's about 20-30 minutes from shin-Osaka. > > Given that flights are frequently late but the highspeed rail system > almost never is. I wouldn't bother prepurchasing tickets or padding > interaries, rather I'd just show up and purchase tickets on the fastest > train going in the correct direction. hiroshima shin-osaka non-reserved > is around 4000 yen. by the time you link together the three or so mass > transit options required to get there it should be order of $60-70 each > way unless the dollar drops even further. > > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf