I agree that this has been a significant issue, and that it is not appropriate to have a large number of meetings in a location where a significant number of potential attendees cannot get a visa to attend. For this reason I have been an advocate of having a disproportionate number of the North American meetings in Canada rather than the USA (to me the Vancouver and Montreal locations have been just as convenient as nearby US locations, and I assume that there must also be suitable facilities in Toronto and elsewhere). One thing that I wonder about is whether or not this will get better with the change of administrations in January. Thus I would be interested in hearing at the next two US IETFs (San Francisco in March 2009, and Anaheim in March 2010) whether people have had an easier time than they did at the current or past IETFs. Ross -----Original Message-----From: 73attendees-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:73attendees-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ???Sent: 18 November 2008 10:15To: healthyao@xxxxxxxxx; ietf@xxxxxxxxxx: 73attendees@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft-palet-ietf-meeting-venue-selection-criteria? yes, it's really a problem that IETF meeting organizers should seriously consider. 在您的来信中曾经提到:>From: "YAO" <healthyao@xxxxxxxxx>>Reply-To: >To: <ietf@xxxxxxxx>>Subject: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3 ofdraft-palet-ietf-meeting-venue-selection-criteria?>Date:Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:24:41 +0800>>> > according to IETF Meeting Venue Selection Criteria> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-palet-ietf-meeting-venue-selection-criteria-04#section-2.3> > which said "> > 2.3. Freedom of Participation> > Meetings should not be held in countries where some attendees could> be disallowed entry or where freedom of speech is not guaranteed for> all participants.> "> > My question is :"> > Is USA qualified for 2.3 of draft-palet-ietf-meeting-venue-selection-criteria asIETF Meeting Venue ?"> > It seems that many IETFer are disallowed to enter USA for ietf meeting when ietfis held in USA this time or other times> _______________________________________________> 73attendees mailing list> 73attendees@xxxxxxxx> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/73attendees> _______________________________________________Ietf mailing listIetf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf