+1
If it's going to be an IETF Standard, it has to have IETF consensus.
This seems consistent with the way individual (i.e., non-WG) submissions
are handled through the IESG.
Leslie.
Pete Resnick wrote:
On 11/7/08 at 9:38 AM -0800, Dave CROCKER wrote:
Sam Hartman wrote:
It seems quite clear to me that RFC 2418 does not apply at all to the
output of an RG.
I've looked around and the WG Guidelines doc happens to be the only
place I could find that defines the purpose of a Last Call. The mere
fact that the title of document is about "working" groups doesn't
obviously limit the scope of that definition.
Please explain. Perhaps there is documentation for the individual and
RG avenues that I missed?
http://tools.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4844.txt
http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-irtf-rfcs-03.txt
We have (IMO) historically screwed up with regard to IRTF and individual
documents and not given them a proper stream to the RFC Editor. The
above documents are dealing with that problem.
However, for this particular case, I'm with Sam: An IRTF document that
is going into the *IETF* standards track is pretty much akin to an any
other organizations documents going into the IETF standards track. It
may be the case that the IETF and IRTF have a lot more sharing of
resources and visibility, than say the IETF and ITU or IEEE, and
therefore the hand-off should be quite a bit easier. However, there is
no doubt that this is *different* than a WG handing off a document to
the IESG for standards track approval. A WG has (ostensibly) been
subject to the direct observation of an AD all along and therefore the
IESG should have a pretty full understanding of the IETF-wide consensus
that has built up around any document coming out of that WG by the time
the Last Call comes around. That's not going to be the case for an IRTF
(or individual or other external organization) document.
Yes, this is a less-than-efficient use of IETF Last Call. But if you
want to make efficient use of the process for an *IETF* standards track
document, work on it in the IETF.
pr
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