On 9/15/08 3:11 PM, "Dave CROCKER" <dhc2@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > This entire line of thinking gets scarier and scarier. If it has any validity > as concern, then we already have a very deep problem. Candidacy often is > already known among some of the IETF community, including among incumbents and > other candidates. So the conflict of interest problem is already present... > if your point is valid. I think there's a problem, but I don't know how deep. The thing that strikes about your message is that some people already know, some people don't. I.e. there's an insider/ outsider division, and that tends (strongly!) to undermine transparency. I'm not crazy about announcing nominations because I really don't like the idea of IETF electoral campaigns (egads), but I do think there's a general problem of the organization not having adapted to its current size and to the problems that size brings. The fact that there's some guy running around threatening litigation over all kinds of procedural stuff shouldn't necessarily cause undue worry about lawsuits but I do think that it should raise the question of what a security considerations section for a document describing IETF structure would look like. We're not all Alice and Bob here anymore. Melinda _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf