Hi, On 2008-09-09 01:28 Ray Pelletier said the following:> All> > The redline of the Legal Provisions Relating to IETF Documents dated > 9-8-08 has been uploaded to http://trustee.ietf.org/policyandprocedures.html > in doc, pdf and rtf formats. To see what changes would be needed in 'idnits', I've looked over theinstructions for text to be included in IETF documents (Section 6 of thedocument referred to above). I see that Section 6.a. specifies the following text: This Internet-Draft is submitted to IETF pursuant to, and in full conformance with, the provisions of [BCP 78 and 79]. and also Section 6.b. specifies this text: Copyright [year] IETF Trust and the persons identified as its authors. All rights reserved. This document is subject to BCP [78] and [the IETF Trust’s Legal Provisions Relating to IETF Documents in effect on the date of publication of this document]. Please review these documents carefully, as they describe your rights and restrictions with respect to this document. So here are my questions: It is clear to me that in the text above, the notation "[year]" is not meantto be literal, but should be replaced with the current year. However, what is the meaning of "[BCP 78 and 79]"? If it is meant to be includedverbatim, it could be meant to indicate that there should be a reference in thereference section called "BCP 78 and 79", or maybe two references called "BCP 78"and "BCP 79"? But then we come to the second paragraph of the 6.b. text, which has thetext "BCP [78]" -- is this now meant to refer to a reference called "78"? Finally, there's the "[the IETF Trust’s Legal Provisions Relating to IETFDocuments in effect on the date of publication of this document]" -- is thatmeant to be replaced by a reference to the actual document in effect atthat day, or is it meant to be inserted verbatim in the documents? I'm afraid that it isn't at all clear to me exactly what the boilerplate asspecified by this revision of the Legal Provisions document should look like. I'd suggest the following: * Say explicitly that the notation [year] should be replaced by the year the document is submitted or published, and likewise for any other text that should be replaced. * Remove any other "[" and "]" characters from text that must be included verbatim. * If it is required that references to BCP 78 and BCP 79 be included in the document's reference section, say so explicitly. * Indicate whether it is permissible to add reference annotation, in the style otherwise used for references in the document, to the boilerplate, or whether that should not be done. (Don't force the document author to use a particular style of reference annotation, such as "[BCP 78]" if the rest of the document uses "[1]", "[2]", etc. ). Regards, Henrik _______________________________________________Ietf mailing listIetf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf