--On Thursday, 22 May, 2008 02:38 -0700 Bill Manning <bmanning@xxxxxxx> wrote: >> Two additional observations: >> >> (1) While we think of RFCs as online documents, their >> antecedents, and all of the early ones, were paper >> publications. > [elided] >> I suggest that the community would be better served, and the >> ISSN made more useful, if we treated RFCs as "authoritative >> paper, copies available online" rather than "online >> documents". If that requires the RFC Editor or IASA to >> print out all of the RFCs published in a given month, throw >> them into an envelope, and put the envelope into the smail, I >> imagine we can afford that. > > there is historical precident for this. Yes, I know -- both about the paper and the "toss into an envelope" bit. Even the idea of a standard page-image format is a lot more recent than many people realize. > my question earlier, regarding the whole series, > includes early, paper-only RFC's, historic, etc. > so the folks thinking that a simple change in the > current tools set will make it all good might have > overlooked dealing w/ legacy documents. The ISSN rules quite explicitly do not require that we go back and reissue entries in the serious prior to the assignment of a number. So, unless we make explicit (and slightly complicated) provisions to the contrary, assignment of an ISSN sweeps in all RFCs back to #0001 but the identifier only needs to be included in RFCs issued after the assignment date (or some other convenient date that the RFC Editor picks). > there are also books already published that are RFC > compilations. they already have ISSN numbers. No, they have ISBN numbers. And, although it is not a big deal, this is yet another reason why an ISSN is a better idea. Whether they are issued by the publisher or someone else, assigning ISBNs to bound compilations of issues of a serial is quite a routine event. Another reason, of course, is that RFCs really are a series -- that is more or less the whole point. john _______________________________________________ IETF mailing list IETF@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf