Hi - > From: "Ned Freed" <ned.freed@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: "Henrik Levkowetz" <henrik@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Cc: "Ned Freed" <ned.freed@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <ietf@xxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 9:12 PM > Subject: Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailing Lists ... > And there's that word "automatically". There is nothing in the text that says > such arrangements have to be automatic. ... I have the same problem with the text. It says: > * IETF mailing lists MUST provide a mechanism for legitimate technical > participants to bypass moderation, challenge-response, or other techniques > that would interfere with a prompt technical debate on the mailing list > without requiring such participants to receive list traffic. The stated requirement is that it must not "interfere with a prompt technical debate". Clearly, that rules out anything requiring human intervention. What do you have in mind that would allow the spammer^H^H^H^H^H^H^H participant to post without subscribing and without interacting with a chair or list administrator? Randy _______________________________________________ IETF mailing list IETF@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf