Regarding the legal issues - if the sessions are broadcast over the Internet, and freely downloadable (w/o specifying or tracking who was downloading them), how can you be certain that someone was NOT aware of certain IPR? Also, if someone was in the room, how can you be certain they WERE aware of certain IPR? The only thing that the IETF can say is that every contribution to the IETF is considered to be publically disclosed, and this is indeed what the Note Well says. It seems to me that the IPR concerns are a red herring. - Wes -----Original Message----- From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eric Burger Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 8:07 PM To: IETF Discussion Subject: Re: Blue Sheet Change Proposal Two purposes for Blue Sheets: 1. Redundant data entry: Quite often, the name is illegible, while the e-mail is legible. We don't care about the e-mail address, what we really care about is who was there. IMHO, this is the important use for capturing the e-mail address. 2. Legal issues: When the inevitable patent dispute happens, we WILL get served to report who was in the room when a particular subject was discussed. Other standards bodies have had this problem, if we haven't had it, it means our time is near :-( On 4/3/08 4:22 PM, "Mark Andrews" <Mark_Andrews@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > >> All, >> >> We are considering changing the meeting Blue Sheet by eliminating the >> need to enter an email address to avoid spam concerns. >> >> Is there any good reason to retain that info bit? >> >> Ray >> _______________________________________________ >> IETF mailing list >> IETF@xxxxxxxx >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > > It's is the only unique token on the blue sheets. This > assumes no shared email accounts which is a pretty reasonable > assumption in this case. > > Mark > -- > Mark Andrews, ISC > 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia > PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: Mark_Andrews@xxxxxxx > _______________________________________________ > IETF mailing list > IETF@xxxxxxxx > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > Notice: This email message, together with any attachments, may contain information of BEA Systems, Inc., its subsidiaries and affiliated entities, that may be confidential, proprietary, copyrighted and/or legally privileged, and is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity named in this message. If you are not the intended recipient, and have received this message in error, please immediately return this by email and then delete it. _______________________________________________ IETF mailing list IETF@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf _______________________________________________ IETF mailing list IETF@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf