Spencer Dawkins wrote: > I'm amazed that the downref isn't being called out in the > Last Call announcement I wonder if you confused "downref" with the opposite case for EAI, the drafts modify more mature RFCs, in essence 2822 and arguably MIME, that's an "upref", not a "downref". If John *would* replace "character" by "octet" in 2821bis based on normative references to say net-utf8, that would be a "downref", because 2821bis wants to be a DS, while net-utf8 is only a PS for the time needed to find errata etc., before it can be promoted to DS. Of course he won't do this, s/character/octet/ is enough for readers not knowing that 2821bis talks about RFC 20, and if other readers wonder why saying "octet" for 7bits makes sense they can figure it out starting with RFC 20. > "The most useful choice" seems very reasonable. The > current text seems to contradict other text in the > same paragraph. Yes, for pure 2821bis 7bit hops "best choice" degenerates into <liaden> "necessity exists" </liaden>. Frank _______________________________________________ IETF mailing list IETF@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf