LB: The first step is to appeal to Chris Newman. If you do not find his response satisfactory, then you raise the matter with me as IETF Chair. If you do not find my response satisfactory, then you raise the matter with the IESG. If you do not find the IESG response satisfactory, then you raise the matter with the IAB. The IAB is the end of the appeal chain for this matter. I do not know of any previous situation where two email identities were claimed to represent the same person, and on of those people already had a PR-Action. I hope this can be resolved in a satisfactory manner very soon without invoking all of these steps. Russ me as IETF Chair.At 05:22 AM 3/22/2008, LB wrote: >Dear Russ, >I am not sure what should be the "next step" and I wish that all is >clear and transparent in the management of what I take for a censure >for offence of opinion or nationality. I think like somebody else, I >use the technical vocabulary appropriate for my thought. I think in >the same mother tongue as another Frenchman. Is it to protest with Mr. >Newman or with Mr. Presuhn or to appeal directly to the IESG? > >I used in vain the RFC-Editor find out what was the rule. I found >nothing. Mr Presuhn says moreover that there are none. I would also >like to know how locate in your archives the cases where the identity >of somebody has been challenged within the IETF in such manner and >what procedures have been initiated. > >With my thanks and my best regards >-- >LB > >2008/3/21, Russ Housley <housley@xxxxxxxxxxxx>: > > LB: > > > > Randy has responded quite publicly. I think his position is quite > > clear. So, the next step is up to you. > > > > > > Russ > > > > > > > > At 08:38 PM 3/20/2008, LB wrote: > > >Dear Sir, > > >Like other members of the multilinguistic working list to which I > > >belong, since 2002 I received a copy of the mails exchanged between > > >JFC Morfin and your organization, on IDNs then langtags. And we have > > >often discussed them. I do not thus ignore big matter of this subject > > > > > >As JFC Morfin got everything we wanted except again: > > >(1) that the WG-IDNABIS quickly demonstrates the merits of IDNA or > > >finds a better solution. > > >(2) that the RFC 4646 is respected by the IESG what also calls for the > > >RFC 4646bis underway. > > >I proposed to replace him as an IETF watcher, given the importance of > > >his current work. > > > > > >In two months, I sent a half-dozen of messages and received courteous > > >answers. Of course I expected a possible ostracism. I was prepared to > > >respond with kind understanding. This was the case with Brian > > >Carpenter. He accused me of being JFC Morfin in an humorous but a way > > >a little hurtful. We exchanged and he had the courtesy to apologize > > >willingly and and to inform the IESG about it. > > > > > >I would have done the same with Randy Preshun if contacted me, even > > >impolitely, even after having ignored my question about a significant > > >breakthrough for us he implied, even after that he probably pushed a > > >"trap" by misrepresenting our position and that of ISO. Instead, he > > >dashes into a guerilla of racist censorship against me: it is because > > >of the MLTF ideas that he accuses me of not being me. > > > > > >2008/3/20, Randy Presuhn <randy_presuhn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > > > > Hi - > > > > > > > > There have been expressions of support, and no objections > on this list, > > > > to the proposed metric (and one off-list objection by JFC Morfin) for > > > > identifying possible sock-puppets of those whose posting privileges > > > > have been revoked pursuant to RFC 3683. So, we're using it. > > > > > > > > We engaged the procedure with three independent working group > > > participants. > > > > All three identified the same email address, which was also > > > identified by the > > > > responsible area director and both co-chairs. Consequently, > > > future postings > > > > from lbleriot@xxxxxxxxx will not be delivered, since we believe > > > this address > > > > is a sock-puppet for JFC Morfin. > > > > > > > > Randy > > > > ltru co-chair > > > > > >You will understand that I have reached an age where I am not > > >impressed anymore and that I have time for a good cause: > > >-- or Randy Preshun apologizes and it stays there. > > >-- or he has suspended my rights without warning and is preparing for > > >a PR action against me without any reason. He does it with the support > > >of our two direct commercial competitors in his WG. Under these > > >conditions you will understand that I am not to be giving anything > > >that enables them to validate a practice of arbitrary exclusion of the > > >IETF. Today I, whom tomorrow? > > >-- > > >LB > > > > _______________________________________________ IETF mailing list IETF@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf