On Mar 8, 2008, at 10:02 AM, Joel Jaeggli wrote: > 10 years ago I would have thought audiences of this scale or larger > would be supported with multicast... And indeed they could be. Most consumer facing ISP's, however, say that they would rather not deploy multicast (to save deployment money and gather content provider revenues) while they complain about the high cost of supporting Peer to Peer. Some even pay good money to annoy their customers by blocking said P2P traffic (TCP resets are the favored mechanism for this right now.) If this seems broken, well, I think that it is. I have to wonder, though, if any ISP will have the guts to block Oprah. Regards Marshall > > joelja > > Dan York wrote: >> IETFers, >> >> Here's your Friday afternoon bit of humor - as you all who have been >> around for a while were designing this set of Tubes known as the >> Internet, did you imagine that someday it might be used for 242 >> Gbps of >> traffic related to 500,000 people joining a web collaboration session >> for... Oprah's Book Club? >> >> If you aren't aware of what I'm talking about, Oprah is hosting 10 >> weekly (Monday night) web collaboration sessions to discuss Eckhart >> Tolle's new book "A New Earth". Over 750,000 people have signed >> up and >> this past Monday 500,000 tried to participate and basically >> crashed the >> system. I have some links to various posts about it here in my blog: >> http://www.disruptivetelephony.com/2008/03/the-oprah-tizat.html >> >> The statement from her company, Harpo Productions, about the event is >> here: http://event.oprah.com/videochannel/ondemand/od_main.html >> and I'll >> include this text: >> -------- >> Monday night's webcast was one of the largest single online events in >> the history of the Internet. More than 500,000 people simultaneously >> logged on to watch Oprah Winfrey and Eckhart Tolle live, resulting in >> 242 Gbps of information moving through the Internet. >> Unfortunately, some >> of our users experienced delays in viewing the webcast. We are >> working >> to identify the specific causes for the problems experienced and will >> work diligently to rectify them. >> >> Harpo Productions, Inc., Move Networks and Limelight Networks >> recognize >> that interactive Internet broadcasting to a mass audience is still an >> emerging medium, and we're proud to have been pioneers in pushing the >> industry forward. >> -------- >> >> The plan is for the sessions to go on for the next 9 Monday >> nights. So >> on Monday night at 9pm Eastern US at IETF-71, if anyone wants to >> watch >> traffic patterns on the Internet, it might make for some interesting >> metrics... ;-) >> >> See you in Philly, >> Dan >> >> -- >> Dan York, CISSP, Director of Emerging Communication Technology >> Office of the CTO Voxeo Corporation dyork@xxxxxxxxx >> <mailto:dyork@xxxxxxxxx> >> Phone: +1-407-455-5859 Skype: danyork http://www.voxeo.com >> Blogs: http://blogs.voxeo.com http://www.disruptivetelephony.com >> >> Bring your web applications to the phone. >> Find out how at http://evolution.voxeo.com >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> IETF mailing list >> IETF@xxxxxxxx >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > > _______________________________________________ > IETF mailing list > IETF@xxxxxxxx > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf _______________________________________________ IETF mailing list IETF@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf