> The descriptions of the venue make clear that, once again, the IETF > is meeting in a ghetto. Periodic bus service doesn't counteract > that. If you look at the Google map and satellite photos of the venue, there appears to be quite a lot of residential and commercial development just east of it. Perhaps someone who lives in Dublin could let us know if there are useful facilities there. Poking around in Google, I see the Citywest Comfort Inn is 3.7km east with rooms from E79 and the Tower Hotel Dublin is 5.7km east with rooms from E99, not walkable but reasonable for shared taxis. There also seem to be several hotels in Tallaght, about 10km away. I agree that it is not practical to commute very far by road around Dublin, since the roads tend to be narrow and congested. R's, John _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf