BTW - I have no knowledge of the venue, I've never been to Ireland. I'm reacting to seeing these complaints pile up over the years about nearly everywhere we have been. I remember staying in Rathcoole about 35 years ago. It was a lovely rural place. I came back to stay there again. There was at time a doable bus service to Dublin. Apparently the place has changed a lot since that time. Looking to the google maps provided by the home page of the resort, the runway for the small airfield against which people were opposing because it would disturb the little people got build in the end. And it seems the the resort is build on the meadows used by the fairies. I'm afraid that the potheen will be less available then it used to be. That's progress I assume. What makes me think the public transport might have improved although the traffic jams might be a new problem. That's progress again. Maybe can rent a bike. Anyway, it will be fun to go back there. jaap _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf