I get the feeling that most critics of IONs are missing the point: that IONs are intended to be a bit more lightweight than RFCs -- but not a lot -- and easier to index. Pasi.Eronen@xxxxxxxxx <Pasi.Eronen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > While there are a couple of IONs whose content I find valuable (such > as ad-sponsoring and discuss-criteria), IMHO the same information > could be placed in "ordinary" web pages without losing much -- and > perhaps gaining something in the process. Indeed, the same information could -- and probably should -- be placed on ordinary web pages, in a somewhat simplified form, referring to the appropriate ION as the reference source. And those web pages should be _really_easy_ to update if anything within them proves to be confusing to the actual readers. But the ION update process should be reserved for cases where the substance is misleading. We _really_don't_ want the IESG to be forced to review all changes to web pages. > ... My "reading between the lines" interpretation of RFC 4693 Section > 5 is that perhaps creating IONs was considered easier than... I see no need to read between the lines. RFC 4693 set out principles for an appropriate process for maintaining notes on operational procedures. > But looking forward, and considering the question "what should be done > about IONs", the answer is less clear. If IONs encourage people to > clearly document things that are useful to others, then they have some > value there. I agree. > ... moving the same information to "ordinary" web pages would > probably mean creating some sort of structure... This is the path we should avoid. Web page maintenance stalls _very_ easily when there are too many folks worrying over the interpretation of every word -- in different browsers, no less! > However, how to organize web pages is a topic where I think > micromanagement (from e.g. me) would not be very productive. If > useful information gets communicated in effective fashion, I'm OK > with letting the IESG to choose the tools they use for maintaining > things on the web, and don't really mind whether they get called > "IONs", "wikis", or just "web pages". Sounds like we agree a lot more than we disagree... -- John Leslie <john@xxxxxxx> _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf