Dean - the point is that SO WHAT... the IETF's actions are to create
standards. Not to create Standards that are only Open Source in form. I
suggest that those bitching and moaning here take a look at the liability
their actions create here.
The IETF's standardization process is based on 1) being properly subjected
to vetting, and 2) being demonstrated through two interoperability ports
which prove the interoperability of the design. The issue here is whether
the person who filed the IETF Submission had the right to since the
derivative licensing under the patent application would need to be disclosed
to all the participants, and if it wasn't - they have recourse against those
parties fraudulently filing the draft with IETF.
So, the IETF wants to be not responsible, but your and the rest of those
moaning about this matter are doing just that - making the IETF itself
responsible, and opening your sponsor's to litigation based therein. Is this
really what you intended because this is more of the BS about the IETF only
addressing open source technologies and that is the problem here.
Todd Glassey
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dean Anderson" <dean@xxxxxxx>
To: "TS Glassey" <tglassey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "Richard Wilbur" <richard.wilbur@xxxxxxxxx>; <ietf@xxxxxxxx>;
<ipr-wg@xxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 8:28 AM
Subject: Re: Vote on tls-authz??? (fwd)
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008, TS Glassey wrote:
So why is everyone so uptight??? The Submarine Patent will cause MUCH
more
trouble for the patent filer, since it will be hit with co-contributor
claims either from the IETF itself or the sponsor's of the other member's
of
the working group.
The patent was filed before the draft was brought to the IETF. The IETF
didn't create this protocol; the IETF was duped into standardizing it by
deception and apparent civil fraud. See
http://www.av8.net/IETF-watch/People/Housley.html
for information on the scandal. This page needs to be summarized and
reorganized, but you can find what you need if you look for it.
--Dean
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