>>>>> "john" == john loughney <john.loughney@xxxxxxxxx> writes: john> Are we the Internet Standardization Development Task Force? john> It seems by this thread, many of us are afraid to do any john> engineering and just work on emails and paper. I *knew* there was some reason I didn't like ISDs from newtrk:-) _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf