But the IETF network has for as long as I've attended (12 years) been a proving ground for new technology. DHCP, multicast, wireless, IPv6, etc. I'm quite happy to see more testing of future technology / configurations on the network. I'd like to see DNSSEC validation deployed on the recursive DNS servers advertised by DHCP to the network. I'd like to see IETF.ORG signed. I'd like to see SIG(0) deployed on the recursive DNS servers. The IETF net should be a actively hostile network from a security perspective once we have the technology to detect and mitigate the attacks. If you ask a plain DNS question you should expect to get a compromised answer. Most of us don't harden our systems nearly enough. We should be able to do work with hardened system otherwise we have failed as engineers. Mark > Expectations of support infrastructure change as technology evolves. > > In those days, we got along just fine without cell phones as well. > > Based on new technology our co-workers expect a level of internation not > previously possible. We are also used to immediate access to reference > material and as one person noted, they may take advantage of local laptop > access to the presentation material to be able to read it. > > ... > > How things were done in the past really has little bearing on how we do > then now. > > > On Wed, 19 Dec 2007, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 01:45:24PM -0500, > > John C Klensin <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> wrote > > a message of 57 lines which said: > > > > > Between this and apparent efforts by the IAOC, IESG, and sponsor to > > > deliberately disrupt the network, this is beginning to sound like > > > the meeting to miss. > > > > I am not old enough to have personal experience of the oldest IETF > > meetings but I've heard that there was no Internet connectivity at all > > at these times and yet the IETF was able to work. > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: Mark_Andrews@xxxxxxx _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf