Very well said. This is what is already happening: Some applications, I will even say companies, are relaying in IPv6 to develop new applications or new versions, because they know that 6to4 and Teredo are there and every day working much better for all. I agree that is nice to have AAAA records for all the contents of Internet, but while there is "nothing new" that an AAAA record offers, and while we can still use dual-stack (even with private addresses behind NAT), I don't see a major advantage on having them. I'm not discouraging folks to have AAAA in all the content servers, on the other way around, I usually push them to do so. However, I also suggest them to deploy Teredo and 6to4 relays in their infrastructures, to ensure their best possible rechability, at least until more and more ISPs do so (which I'm also pushing for and helping as much as I can). Content providers need to start taking advantage of IPv6, not just by using AAAA (which in fact is not an advantage), but to be able to provide new services that may work better with real peer-to-peer and definitively are much easier to develop. And yes, that means CHEAPER. Regards, Jordi > De: Sam Hartman <hartmans-ietf@xxxxxxx> > Responder a: <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx> > Fecha: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:44:10 -0500 > Para: <jordi.palet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > CC: <ietf@xxxxxxxx> > Asunto: Re: I-D Action:draft-narten-ipv6-statement-00.txt > >>>>>> "JORDI" == JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > > JORDI> Last mile is not yet IPv6 enabled, but automatic transition > JORDI> mechanisms such as 6to4 and Teredo are playing very well, > JORDI> and there is a huge amount of non-native IPv6 traffic. > > JORDI> So I can't agree with your statement. > > > I'd like to second that. I've found 6 to 4 and teredo incredibly > useful in internal and virtualization applications today. > > IPV6 is at a point where it has critical applications within > infrastructures. People look at factors like whether major websites > publish AAAA records as a success metric for IPV6. > > That doesn't make sense today. We're telling people they need dual > stack. So, if I have an IPV4 address, why would it benefit me to > publish AAAA records? > > The question for judging IPV6 right now is does IPV6 enable new > applications and reduce costs. The answer seems to be that in a > number of important cases that IPV6 does actually reduce costs or > enable new applications. That's enough to drive the network effects > that will drive adoption. > > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf ********************************************** The IPv6 Portal: http://www.ipv6tf.org Bye 6Bone. Hi, IPv6 ! http://www.ipv6day.org This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, including attached files, is prohibited. _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf