I go to the tools site most of the time to look at Internet drafts as
I like the multiple ways I can view the drafts in text, with HTML links,
diffs etc.
I like the new news version of the page as I can see that helps people see
what is happening, I can just as easily live with news.ietf.org for that.
The new daily dose is well integrated into the existing tools so I see this
as an advantage.
My vote is to keep the Daily dose format
Olafur
At 19:12 02/11/2007, Lixia Zhang wrote:
Hi Henrik,
here is my 2 cents: every time when I go to tools page is because I'm
looking for some tools, but not news. Assuming others go there for
the same purpose, then one main goal is to ease the tool searching,
right?
instead of daily dose being the front page, what about treating the
daily dose just as an item (that's a tool in some sense:), and make
the content of http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ the front page? for me
that can be a speedup
Lixia
Hi Joel,
On 2007-11-02 18:00 Joel M. Halpern said the following:
I second John's note. When I saw Pasi's note, I had assumed that he
was referring to a link off of the tools page.
Replacing the tools page with an activity summary is quite
surprising.
Joel
Hmm. I'm not sure exactly what's the issue here, so let's try to
explore this and see what we can find out.
Essentially, the change is two-fold:
1. The old lefthand list of links have been replaced by the same
lefthand
list of links which appear on all the WG and other tools pages,
making
for one less list of links to keep up-to-date manually. This
has been
in the works for quite some time; I've tried to poll people on
it, and
most people seem to be happier with the lefthand menu on the WG
pages
than the front page menu.
2. Replacing the static text on the first page with a news item page.
The static text that was replaced was as follows:
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Welcome to the IETF Tools Pages
These pages are maintained by the IETF Tools Team.
The aim of these web-pages is to help the IETF community as
follows:
* Make it easy to find existing tools
* Provide means of feedback on existing and new tools (wiki
and mailing
list)
* Provide information on new and updated tools
If you have comments on these pages, or ideas for new tools or
for
refinement of current tools, please send them to tools-
discuss@xxxxxxxxx
For current tools, there may also be a page in the IETF tools
wiki (in
addition to the tools page you can reach through the menu to
the left)
which summarises proposals and known deficiencies - feel
welcome to
check this out, and contribute your information!
---------------------------------------------------------------------- -
The way I see it, replacing that with a news summary would be a good
idea. The text above was appropriate when the tools pages were being
established; they are now used by a lot of people, and the text above
seems to be a bit superfluous.
I could be wrong about that, and if so, an indication of how you
feel about the old and new page would be good. Some options are:
- You would specifically like to keep the text above (or some
modification of it).
- You agree that it's time for a re-working of the front page,
but you
don't want to have the latest happenings on the front page, you
want
them as a separate news page.
- You don't care too much what's at the front page, as long as it's
not too heavy-weight -- the major objection isn't to the news
page as
such, but to the increased size of the page *for you personally
as a
consumer of the page*
- Some other option which I haven't understood the importance of
yet,
which you will be able to formulate better than I can here :-)
Please speak up and indicate as specifically as you can what's good
and
bad about the change, and how we can improve it; and we'll try to
make it
so!
Regards,
Henrik
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