Re: mini-cores (was Re: ULA-C)

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Thus spake "Paul Vixie" <paul@xxxxxxx>
As mentioned above "PI" blocks can be used for this. As such organizations who can convince all ISPs in the DFZ that they are important enough to have their own routing slot can cough up the dough and be there, others will just
have to do with this mechanism to get around.

by what method do you expect the dfz to start resisting new routes unless new
fees are paid?  there is no historical precedent for such fees, nor for a
transition from no-fees to fees where all decisionmakers are third parties.

absent such a method, the network operators who dominate the bottom-up RIR
policy process are almost certainly going to make PI hard to qualify for.

In the ARIN region, one can qualify for PI today with as few as 256 hosts, and there was a recent proposal that would have indirectly dropped that to 64 hosts. I cannot justify calling that "hard"; it's arguably "too easy". However, the fact is that small PIv4 assignments have had virtually no uptake -- a few hundred /21-22 blocks assigned according to ARIN staff recently. The DFZ has not exploded, and in fact it's growing slower than Moore's Law.

If you're worried about the DFZ and/or exhaustion, go look at the few dozen big ISPs that are putting hundreds to thousands of routes each in the DFZ and consuming over 80% of the RIR IP space. The tiny PI players are a negligible factor compared to the massive deaggregation done by the bigger players due to some combination of TE and incompetence.

S

Stephen Sprunk         "God does not play dice."  --Albert Einstein
CCIE #3723         "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the
K5SSS dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking


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