On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 04:12:05PM -0400, The IESG wrote: > - 'DNSSEC Lookaside Validation (DLV) IANA Registry' > <draft-weiler-dnssec-dlv-iana-00.txt> as an Informational RFC > 1. Should it be published? The draft should not be published for at least the following reasons: o Means of Trust Anchor Publication Even if we assume that the root zone will not be signed in the near future and a Trust Anchor Repository (TAR) was desirable, it is not clear that DLV would be the publication mechanism of choice. In fact, given that DLV is designed to follow the DNS tree structure by locating the trust anchor closest to the target zone, a flat, TLD only DLV structure seems counter-indicated. Other means of publication, e.g. a signed list of DS records or a DNSSEC enabled version of the root zone would be easier to maintain and access. o Incompleteness of Instructions The draft says IANA is instructed to use its own best practices for authenticating zone operators' requests to insert, modify, and delete DLV entries. Except for some additional guidance on DNSSEC key parameters in subsequent paragraphs, the main operational questions are not even touched in this document. This includes the lack of a termination criterion or exit strategy. o Nature of Request The draft requests the creation of a domain within the ARPA top level domain, which is governed by RFC 3172, also based on MoU RFC 2860: Section 4.3 of RFC 2860: 4.3. Two particular assigned spaces present policy issues in addition to the technical considerations specified by the IETF: the assignment of domain names, and the assignment of IP address blocks. These policy issues are outside the scope of this MOU. Note that (a) assignments of domain names for technical uses (such as domain names for inverse DNS lookup), (b) assignments of specialised address blocks (such as multicast or anycast blocks), and (c) experimental assignments are not considered to be policy issues, and shall remain subject to the provisions of this Section 4. [...] In addition to the apparent lack of reference to RFC 3172 in the draft, it is not necessarily clear that domain names corresponding to TLDs are covered by the exceptional clause (a) above. Quite to the contrary, the fact that the instructions try to exploit IANA's existing relations to TLD registries/managers favor the view that it is clearly the non-IETF part of IANA that is addressed here. That said, an IANA considerations section is the wrong place for such request. The formalities would only insignificantly change by re-homing from dlv.dnssec.arpa to another TLD, since the IETF<->IANA relation is still governed by RFC 2860. This is not meant to say that IANA could not operate and maintain a TLD TAR or that the IETF could not encourage such effort. Just the means of communication needs to be different. If the IETF believes an interim solution like a TLD TAR is desirable _and_ IANA is the preferred TAR operator, it should approach ICANN through the appropriate liaison channels. Still that would not imply use of the DLV technology. Just as additional data point: there's work going on within RIPE to explore the requirements for and properties of a TLD only TAR. -Peter (no hats, speaking for myself only) _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf