> In any event, when folks talk about making changes -- to add features, > fight abuse, or whatever -- they should start with a non-technical > discussion about what changes for the human experience of email. And > they should develop consensus for that change. I'm not sure that the discussion has to start there - but until that part is addressed, there will be nagging questions about how the human experience changes. And it seems that failure to completely address this topic has plagued most of the proposals for anti-spam mechanisms, and severely hampered the discussions about them. _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf