> Fourth, lots of folks (me included) happen to find it convenient > to use NAT between my site/house/office and my upstream provider. do you also find it "convenient" that NAT has effectively thwarted the deployment of huge numbers of new applications, significantly raised the cost of deploying others, and harmed the reliability of all applications? _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf