> Charging for IDs will kill innovation. I use IDs to float ideas which > may or may not bear fruition. I would not work on these if I had to pay. > I also work on things at the IETF than my employer does not sponsor. > These things will get thrown out as well. I assume i-d to be a proposal for a new protocol, which is implementable with a reasonable efforts and costs. i think your view and my view are opposite. i'd like to see the following: - submission of i-d requires an implementation - to become a RFC requires two independent interoperable implementation itojun _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf