>>>>> "Charles" == Charles Clancy <clancy@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: Charles> Sam Hartman wrote: >>>>>>> "Charles" == Charles Clancy <clancy@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: >> Charles> I don't think I'm convinced that EAP channel bindings are Charles> doing this binding to the L2 channel. The identity used Charles> in an EAP channel binding must be bound to the AAA Charles> security association between the authenticator and the Charles> peer in order for everything to work, so it would be more >> I'm not sure I'd describe the association between the peer and >> authenticator as an AAA association. I agree with the rest. Charles> Ah, I mistyped. I meant AAA security association between Charles> the authenticator and EAP server. I'd define the EAP channel binding problem as follows. There are two sets of identities that the peer and authenticator use: one at the EAP layer and one at a lower layer. There is an additional identity that the authenticator may use to authenticate to the AAA server. The channel binding problem is to make sure that the EAP server authorizes the authenticator's use of the lower layer identity to the peer and the peer's use of a given lower layer identity. In performing this authorization the EAP server must authorize that the authenticator is actually allowed to claim the lower layer identity it wants to claim. In doing that it will have to make an authorization decision about whether the identity the authenticator uses to authenticate to the AAA server is authorized to claim the given lower layer identity. However that identity--between the NAS and the AAA server doesn't inherently appear anywhere else. It sounds like 802.11R does plan to expose that identity, but that's a design decision for that lower layer. _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf