>>>>> "John" == John C Klensin <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> writes: John> I also do not believe that it is appropriate to view John> Informational publication as some sort of consolation prize. John> If the community, and the IESG, conclude that the document John> and its technology should be standardized, then John> Informational publication should not be automatic: the John> document should be reviewed for sponsorship appropriateness John> according the IESG's recently-published procedures or John> actually handed off to the RFC Editor as an independent John> submission. I agree with John here. I've basically concluded that I'm not interested in sponsoring this document as an informational or experimental document. I feel that it would come across way too much as a consolation prise and I'm not sure that it would be justified. If the IETF decides it is appropriate I'm happy to continue my sponsorship on the standards track. Note that the decision of whether I sponsor a document is one I get to make; it is not subject to community consensus. I would not object to an independent submission and while I think I would advise other ADs against sponsoring info/experimental, I would not hold a discuss if they chose to do so. --Sam _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf