>>>>> "Steven" == Steven M Bellovin <smb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: Steven> On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 21:14:35 -0800 Steven> "Joseph Salowey (jsalowey)" <jsalowey@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> I would like to understand better why ... no automated key >> management is specified. >> Steven> Do they cite any of the reasons listed in RFC 4107? No. Bill gave me a heads up about this a while back because I'd indicated I would hold a discuss on the next document to do this. I could not get together the energy to engage with the WG and cause them to design a security architecture for PIM. I at least am planning to abstain on this document because the AD tried to engage and I failed. I don't think it's good technology for this not to have automated key management though. _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf