Brian E Carpenter <brc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 2007-01-17 16:41, Dave Crocker wrote: >> Brian E Carpenter wrote: >> >>> I think you are deeply misunderstanding how PROTO shepherding is >>> supposed to work. >> >> That's a pretty basic disconnect. >> >> Perhaps you can summarize how it is supposed to work? > > The way it's described in draft-ietf-proto-wgchair-doc-shepherding, > which makes it plain to me that the shepherd is taking > responsibility for ensuring that issues are resolved through > open process. I presume Brian wants to call our attention to: ] ] (3.e) The Document Shepherd then communicates the DISCUSS and ] COMMENT items to the document editors and the working group, ] alerting them of any changes to the document that have ] accumulated during IESG processing, such as "Notes to the RFC ] Editor." If any changes will be substantive, the Document ] Shepherd, in consultation with the Responsible Area Director, ] as during other stages, MUST seek working group consensus. ("then" is perhaps a bit out of context: see the named document.) Note the steps 3.[abcd] which precede it. I sense a perception that not all of this is happening. IMHO, we need to avoid the "quick fix" of claiming an automated posting to the mailing-list can substitute for these steps. Nonetheless, it might be that an automated notification that a DISCUSS remains outstanding some number of days after the telechat could help bring immediacy to the process... -- John Leslie <john@xxxxxxx> _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf