Re: "Discuss" criteria

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to follow up on Dave's note

* The IETF as a whole does not have consensus on the technical
approach or document. There are cases where individual working groups or areas have forged rough consensus around a technical approach which does not garner IETF consensus. An AD may DISCUSS a document where she or he believes this to be the case. While the Area Director should describe the technical area where consensus is flawed, the focus of the DISCUSS and its resolution should be on how to forge a cross-IETF consensus.

what actual evidence must an AD present to indicate that the
assertion of non-consensus is anywhere but in the one AD's mind?

Like WG chairs, ADs are expected to use their best judgment in assessing WG or IETF consensus, respectively.

Ultimately a declaration of consensus has to be a judgment call on someone's part. No amount of procedural rules can get around that. The best we can do to ensure fairness is make the process transparent and provide for appeal.

Keith



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