>>>>> "Hallam-Baker," == Hallam-Baker, Phillip <pbaker@xxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: Hallam-Baker,> That is empirically not true. At this point we have Hallam-Baker,> precisely two cryptographic security protocols that Hallam-Baker,> can be regarded as a success: SSL and WEP. And the Hallam-Baker,> original design of both was botched. Sorry, I'd say Kerberos is a success as well as ssh. Both of them demonstrate the point you're trying to make though. _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf