>>>>> "John" == John C Klensin <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> writes: John> And, if deciding which appeals are vexatious and which ones John> are ok is too burdensome --especially relative to hearing a John> few more appeals-- then, IMO, we shouldn't be spending time John> on trying to figure out ways to make appeals harder. I agree with you. I think for several recent IESg appeals, there would be unanimous support on the IESG for the proposition that considering the appeal did not help the IETF or its processes. In cases like that, it seems like having a fast track to get rid of appeals is beneficial. The main question in my mind is what mechanism we use to prevent the appealed body from abusing this mechanism. I don't think fast track mechanisms are needed for appeals to WG chairs or ADs. If the appeal is without merit, it takes the AD very little time to write up a brief note denying the appeal. _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf